Volkswagen Appreciation Thread

[Casper]

dammit eric finish your coupe

[SLK]

dammit eric sell me your coupe

There. That is much better.

Seriously. I would kill for a t-red coupe. Better watch out Eric. Once that thing is on the road, I make no promises. My urges might get the best of me.

[Dakota_Ice]

I think I found my next family car: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rid/index.html

[SLK]

Why get the hybrid? The diesel can kick it's ass.

[Sven7]

Can you neutral coast in a hybrid? Because i'll bet you could easily make up that 8mpg difference with a diesel manual.

[sprstu]

Jetta TDI > Jetta Hybrid. The 32/40mpg ratings are bullshit on the Jetta TDI. If you get less than 43 combined you're doing it wrong. the new 2.0TDI is such a perfect engine.

[derp]

amidoingitright?

[mrkrinkle]

That's pretty damn awesome.

[urgti]

you should see the wicker version

[Sven7]

Looks like quite the "wiring" problem.

[dustin]

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Dakota_Ice]

Why get the hybrid? The diesel can kick it's ass.

The Hybrid is likely to be around .5 seconds slower 0-60 than the Diesel, about 5% slower, not significant.

03-23-2012 12:05 PMSven7
Can you neutral coast in a hybrid? Because i'll bet you could easily make up that 8mpg difference with a diesel manual.

Why would you coast in neutral? In my opinion, that is not safe if you need to do an emergency maneuver. See my next comment on how the car would be typically driven.

03-23-2012 10:04 PMsprstu
Jetta TDI > Jetta Hybrid. The 32/40mpg ratings are bullshit on the Jetta TDI. If you get less than 43 combined you're doing it wrong. the new 2.0TDI is such a perfect engine.

A very valid point...Before committing to a Jetta Hybrid, there would be a thorough comparison done with a Jetta TDI, from price point to drivability to features.

This would be my wife's car and 80% of her driving is in the city and NOT on the freeways. This fact will be the key factor in any decision. Until the Hybrid is actually available to test drive and see in person, it is premature to make make an intelligent decision.

I may not keep up to date on the latest car news, but I found this offering from VW interesting and not previously discussed on Eurowerks.

[sprstu]

You also don't want to Neutral Coast in a Diesel, leaving it in gear actually shuts the fuel off when you lift from throttle, where putting it into neutral moves the fuel to 'idle' mode. You're not using much but you are using some fuel at idle, in gear and coasting uses none.

In short, neutral uses more fuel than leaving it in gear.

Check out the long term Jetta review from Auto-blog.
http://www.autoblog.com/tag/2011+volkswagen+jetta+tdi/

As much of a TDI fan-boi i am, if she will be sitting in traffic and mostly short distance commute, the Hybrid may be there better choice. Diesel thrives on open roads and long run times, if you live in the city, drive in the city and spend a lot of time at stop lights the Diesel will not yield the greatest results compared to a hybrid.

[Sven7]

First, i dare you to give me one instance where you'd hit the accelerator (and have enough power to make a move) instead of brake in an emergency. (I'm not trying to start an argument- just pointing this out)

Now for some reasoning. Coasting in neutral is an essential part of the technique called pulse and glide where you accelerate to a certain speed rather quickly then coast down again (I usually do 45-60). This means your engine is operating at a higher efficiency when you're accelerating, and maintaining the lowest possible rpm during the coast. Best of both worlds and much more efficient than steady state cruising. Since you want to coast as long as possible, keeping it in gear would be counter-productive. I also frequently pop it into neutral to coast to lights very far away. It's all about maintaining momentum and using the energy you've invested, not engine braking.

Also, I don't pretend to know anything about fuel cutoff but the guys at Ecomodder seem to think (at least on gas cars) that it only happens above a certain RPM. So you'd have to be engine braking or otherwise slowing down to truly take advantage of it. The extra drive train friction would not be worth the lack of fuel consumption, compared to free coasting in neutral. Right?

[euro]

less ecomodding and more racecar