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audivwdave
06-21-2008, 12:00 PM
There has always been the term "americans love their cars" well do they really? For example yesterday I was in the car wash and I washing my car which took about 20-30 minutes. I was using a bucket and a wash mit then some lady in a lexus drives into the next bay she does the typical soapy spray and the water rinse and then doesnt bother with the brake dust on the wheels and just drives off without drying the car!

I see this offense all the time these people that act like they care so much about their cars but they dont even know about the big scratch that is on the passenger side because they dont bother getting out and walking to the other side. Also taking your car through an automatic wash and not even bother to clean the wheels,which most people do is a felony in my book.

We park our cars out in the middle of the parking lot and walk a little futher than others. Regular people jam their shit in as far close to the enterance of where they are putting their doors in risk and everything else. Most people dont even take care of their car and make fun of others that do. So why pay 45-50k for an suv that you are just gonna wreck and abuse when you can just get a mercedes for the same price? Cuz getting a ML vs a Yukon is snobby ironically.

Americans dont love their cars they dont even know anything about their cars besides the fact that its their car and they dont want anything to happen to it but the occasional door bang into the car next to theirs and a bumper scuff from rear ending it into another car is no big deal. The part about the wheels where you can write your name in brake dust is also not that big of a deal. If they get a rock chip they might just hope it doesnt continure to crack and wont bother calling their insurance to get it fixed.

Yes Im calling you out america if you can tell me what engine is in your car and can tell me how much torque you have,then you are one step closer in a positive direction on fulling the term that americans love their cars.

thull
06-21-2008, 12:05 PM
5.7 liter LS1 with 340 torque to the wheels

I park that bitch right up front at Sam's Club and have an unlimited pass to Mister Automatic Car Wash

thull
06-21-2008, 12:05 PM
what now biotch

audivwdave
06-21-2008, 12:09 PM
Hahah mister car wash

thull
06-21-2008, 12:14 PM
I like squirting my car with the soap gun as it goes through to get it extra clean.

dontknownuttin
06-21-2008, 12:40 PM
3.2L .:R32 engine with 239 Torque. I park further out if the spots are really tight, but otherwise I don't sweat it.

nodubjustyet
06-21-2008, 12:50 PM
cars=appliances

I don't think it's any different in Europe.

There are enthusiasts here and there...

audivwdave
06-21-2008, 01:25 PM
So did everyone miss the point of this post? I wasnt insulting you guys Im saying us as in "car people" vs them typical americans that drive expensive american cars and or foreign cars.

thull
06-21-2008, 01:53 PM
I saw your point, and agree that there are plenty of lazy Americans with shitty nice cars that do not realize that driving is a privilege and would rather get into Wal-Mart faster than save a door ding on another person's pristine exotic.

The argument is just tired, its never going to change

teddymac
06-21-2008, 03:31 PM
http://www.defence.gov.au/news/navynews/editions/4808/images/21-Car%20wash.jpg
I haven't really washed my car since last summer... I've gone to the pay n spray's... but that doesn't count worth shit. In mankato, I used to go to the pay n spray, spray the car, fill a soap bucket and actually wash my car, then pay again and spray it off. Up here the pay n spray's cost twice as much, so it's stupid to do that.

anyone know of a decent priced pay n spray (as in <$3.25)? (http://www.eurowerks.org/showthread.php?p=123876#post123876)

Das VR6
06-21-2008, 08:22 PM
I think when the phrase "Americans love their cars" it is used more along the lines of Americans are lazy and do not think of taking public transportation, car pooling, biking, etc. Enthusiasts like the members of this club love their cars in a different way, love them as more then just a mode of transportation, but as a hobby and way of life.

HPTDoh
06-23-2008, 06:59 PM
I think when the phrase "Americans love their cars" it is used more along the lines of Americans are lazy and do not think of taking public transportation, car pooling, biking, etc. Enthusiasts like the members of this club love their cars in a different way, love them as more then just a mode of transportation, but as a hobby and way of life.

Beat me to it. Loving cars != being a car enthusiast

zurno
06-23-2008, 09:48 PM
2.0L Zetec 216 lb/ft of tq (it must be euro, has a 1.8/2.0L intake manifold)

Digital K
06-23-2008, 09:51 PM
fuck if I know how much torque I have, my car doesnt even run right now.

zurno
06-23-2008, 10:02 PM
fuck if I know how much torque I have, my car doesnt even run right now.


0 tq then? or is the motor and tranny in place with a starter motor available? I'm sure then it would have some tq.

Digital K
06-23-2008, 10:03 PM
my guess is 135 torque?

Ood
06-23-2008, 10:10 PM
I know what you mean. I even spend well over an hour cleaning and vacuuming my beater Jeep. Every vehicle I own always gets royal treatment, even if I paid 200 bucks for it.

Ood
06-23-2008, 10:12 PM
Oh, and my Jeep is 190 horse, 225 tq. :P


My VR, well, you know.

nics1152
06-24-2008, 12:56 PM
As far as how I treat my VW, yes I am very anal about where it is parked, what roads it even drives down and of course who is even allowed to drive. (very small number) But when it comes to my 85 Isuzu Trooper II daily driver, I could care less about that heap. I've washed it maybe once in about a year, I do however make sure that its mechanicals are all in order though. Oil is cheap and motors aren't.
I do see driving as a privealage and not a right, something I think I picked up while growing up in Germany. I remember the majority of the cars there didn't even have cup holders, b/c the european drivers considered driving to be such an experience that why would you have a drink with you?!

Die Frau
06-24-2008, 01:03 PM
8 torx.

Das VR6
06-24-2008, 01:05 PM
european drivers considered driving to be such an experience that why would you have a drink with you?!

what if I get thirsty while eating my quarter pounder and fries while going down the freeway in between glances of reading my paper.

JK9K
06-24-2008, 02:14 PM
310/376

No idea on the 9-3, was like 185/185, but its not anymore :)

Also, Americans like to be able to tell other people what kind of car they drive...they don't actually give a shit about the car itself.

audivwdave
06-24-2008, 05:04 PM
310/376

Also, Americans like to be able to tell other people what kind of car they drive...they don't actually give a shit about the car itself.

We have a winner.

Chaseme
06-24-2008, 10:17 PM
I think when the phrase "Americans love their cars" it is used more along the lines of Americans are lazy and do not think of taking public transportation, car pooling, biking, etc. Enthusiasts like the members of this club love their cars in a different way, love them as more then just a mode of transportation, but as a hobby and way of life.

Hit the nail on the head. :thumbup: