MKII VR Question

[ShowCar]

I really know nothing about the MKII world, but I wanna learn more about the VR swaps. Now, I'm not a big drag guy, but to get an idea of how fast they can be, what does it take to get a MKII VR6 into the low 14's high 13's with a decent driver?

How much does the VR swap usually cost? Basically, after the initial purchase, what's it gonna set me back if I do all of the work myself?

I'm itching for a winter project :beer:

[flippinvw]

Well, first off I'd go to the Vortex with these questions as there are maybe two people on here that have actually done it. Second, the best way to do it is to buy a complete driving car, preferably a mkIII or even better a corrado, as a corrado really is a mkII. The swap is pretty easy to do, hardest part is probably the wiring and getting the hydraulic clutch/pedal assembly put in. The swap is easier (nearly plug and play) if you swap into a CE2 car (i.e. early 90's mkII's, some late 80's cars). Swapping it in piecemeal might seem cheaper, but with high-milage VR cars near $2k, you're better off getting a whole car and parting.

A properly set up OEM+ mkII will probably do high 14's at best, unless you go limited slip and maybe cams? Boost?

[tima]

not sure on a mk2 but my buddies mk3 jetta ran 14.0 with: 2.5" exhaust, intake, 75 shot wet.

[ShowCar]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm really just looking for something that'll be a fun project, keep me busy for a while, won't cost and arm and a leg, and will be fun to drive. I've always liked MKIIs but never bothered learning much about 'em. I'll keep reading on the vortex and pop in here with other questions.

Over and out!

[tima]

basically all you really need to do to get a vr to fit is: vr K frame, passat 16v rad support and you also need to slightly dent the passenger frame rail for the pulley to clear


its a fairly easy swap

[helmut]

boost a 16v. They are fun in mk2's

[ShowCar]

boost a 16v. They are fun in mk2's

Tell me more about what's involved? Are there kits available? How built does the motor need to be to handle a decent amount of boost?

[flippinvw]

not sure on a mk2 but my buddies mk3 jetta ran 14.0 with: 2.5" exhaust, intake, 75 shot wet.

the key is in that last part there.. ;)

[flippinvw]

Tell me more about what's involved? Are there kits available? How built does the motor need to be to handle a decent amount of boost?

It's as much or more work because you have to tune it. No kits unless you want to keep running Motronic (not recommended).

I this case the easier answer would be to do a 1.8T.

For cheap speed, a G60 is always a possibility. Prob a lil cheaper than a VR but the blower will usually need a rebuild. Good power/weight and retain the same balance as a stock mkII.

You should just try a stock mkII. They don't need a lot of horsepower to be fun :)

[glee60]

:eek: NO. Bad Flippin!! Haha If you're on a budget... run as far away from a G60 as you can... then hide, and don't come out until it's gone! (because you'll drop oodles of dough and your car won't have a motor for the next 6 months! ...Ask me how I know) I think the best winter project you could undertake would be an e30! hehehe Kidding?

[flippinvw]

I know about G60's, my brother has had quite a few. His G60 rabbit is proof that if you do it right from the start it can be done for reasonable $$.

I mean, define "budget". $2k in motor work seems to be about the "buy-in" into the fast VW game, you can build a nice G60 for that money, including the most important thing which is proper maintenance. No you can't put a stg 4 kit on a G60 with 200k and expect everything to work right.

[Captain]

i'll be at the fall tour tomorrow. if the weather permits. if anybody wants to talk shop or maybe get a ride lemme know.