F1 2011

[famouSSTAR]

I really excited for this years F1 season. Its was really nice to see a championship race between more then one or two teams. be interesting to see how Ferrari will respond to the end of last season. Alonso made one hell of a push. Sure he had some help with the mistakes from RB and Mclaren. Ferrari has announced, that they are going to introduce the car in three weeks.

[famouSSTAR]

Also some rule/regulation changes for 2011
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/12/11603.html

[mimalmo]

Movable aero...hmmmm. Should be interesting.

[derp]

anyone else think lewis hamilton is a douchebag?

[mimalmo]

yes, definite d-bag.

[derp]

k good i'm not the only one lol

[famouSSTAR]

Im with you guys too, D

[famouSSTAR]

I also would like to see some of the new teams step it up this year, a little to dangerous to have cars 4 seconds slower out there.

[John2.0T]

I was really happy to see Vettel win the championship this year. It blows me away that a 23 year old (6 months older than me) is that talented... same with a lot of the younger drivers who race F1.

Can't wait for this year to start!

[famouSSTAR]

I'm happy to see him win too, I think he has a very successful career in front of him.

[Stumanbmx]

Just curious. Why is Hamiltion a douche bag?

[derp]

i strongly disagree with some of the driving he's performed while i was watching a few races.

[mrkrinkle]

Hamilton is a douchebag because he's cocky as hell. He is an amazing driver when he is able to put that aside; when he isn't able to do so he drives insanely aggressive. He had pissed his team off multiple times in the 2010 season from comments made while racing, and was almost put in jail after he did a massive doughnut session in the streets following practice in a Mercedes AMG whatever. Hopefully with time all of his negatives will go away and he can prove himself as a legend.

I hope to god the FIA enforces some sort of a baseline onto the newer/slower teams. It is dangerous to the faster drivers at all times, not to mention that the slower teams cannot qualify at thier best potential because they are constantly being blue flagged at least once a lap. I understand that F1 needs newer teams, but when they are 4+ seconds a lap slower than the rest of the field, that's absurd! Especially when formula one usually comes down to the hundreth or even thousandth a second per lap between different manufacturers.

[iStunt]

Hamilton is a douchebag because he's cocky as hell. He is an amazing driver when he is able to put that aside; when he isn't able to do so he drives insanely aggressive. He had pissed his team off multiple times in the 2010 season from comments made while racing, and was almost put in jail after he did a massive doughnut session in the streets following practice in a Mercedes AMG whatever. Hopefully with time all of his negatives will go away and he can prove himself as a legend.

I hope to god the FIA enforces some sort of a baseline onto the newer/slower teams. It is dangerous to the faster drivers at all times, not to mention that the slower teams cannot qualify at thier best potential because they are constantly being blue flagged at least once a lap. I understand that F1 needs newer teams, but when they are 4+ seconds a lap slower than the rest of the field, that's absurd! Especially when formula one usually comes down to the hundreth or even thousandth a second per lap between different manufacturers.

Does anyone remember some of the douchey thing Senna said and did on and off the track?

[iSpeed]

Hamilton is a douchebag because he's cocky as hell. He is an amazing driver when he is able to put that aside; when he isn't able to do so he drives insanely aggressive.

WHOA!! Thems fightin words homie!! :biggrin:

All the greats are cocky and rightfully so. Ayrton senna, Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, James Stewart, Randy Moss, Tony Stewart. When you are good and can prove it then why not talk some shit and back it up.

[SLK]

I am excited for this year. It will be the first time in 2 years I will have enough free time to follow the season. Plus having a DVR now also helps a lot.

[famouSSTAR]

DVR is killer if you don't want to get up at wee hours of the morning. plus you don't miss a thing

[mrkrinkle]

WHOA!! Thems fightin words homie!! :biggrin:

All the greats are cocky and rightfully so. Ayrton senna, Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, James Stewart, Randy Moss, Tony Stewart. When you are good and can prove it then why not talk some shit and back it up.

There is truth to that. But football, MX, and NASCAR are a bit different than F1. It's a "gentlemans" racing league. By gentleman I mean be cocky without being a dick. Hamilton is a great driver but is a little immature for my likings.

Also you don't need to defend Hamilton just cuz he looks like Obama, err I mean Cameron :P

[Stumanbmx]

I've always liked Hamilton to be honest. He might not drive in a very responsible manner sometimes on the track but he seems like a cool guy. Especially in his interview on Top Gear a few years back and last season when he drove Senna's F1 car. Also, I agree with Cameron on the fact that Senna was not a very responsible driver either on the track. Yet Senna is know as one the greats if not the greatest F1 driver.

[derp]

WHOA!! Thems fightin words homie!! :biggrin:

All the greats are cocky and rightfully so. Ayrton senna, Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, James Stewart, Randy Moss, Tony Stewart. When you are good and can prove it then why not talk some shit and back it up.

except randy moss isn't good. rare moments of brilliance amidst too much attitude, and general lack of effort.

It's fine to be confident. It's fine to be extremely confident. Being overly cocky makes you seem like a prick. (i.e. Moss)

Hamilton has made enough moves that I perceived to downright unnecessarily dangerous to other drivers that I have zero respect for him.
Oh, and he still drives like an idiot often enough that

[famouSSTAR]

Its getting closer, Ferrari unveiled the 2011 F150 this morning. look so simple. No more fin going all the way to the back. With out the double diffuser, the back looks so naked

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/1/11675.html

[famouSSTAR]

Doesn't look like alot of imagination went in to it. front wing looks exactly the same.
http://public.tek303.xsmail.com/fer2.jpg
http://public.tek303.xsmail.com/fer1.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/168789.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/168805.jpg
http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/168796.jpg
http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/168801.jpg
http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/168799.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

Also Lotus Renault introduced the 11' livery.
http://speedmagazine.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/LotusRenaultF1-630x250.jpg

[mimalmo]

The front wing on the Ferrari is very interesting...

[famouSSTAR]

today Sauber released the C30
it uses Ferrari's 056 engine, ferrari trans and ferrari also did the KERS system also.
http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1296468137.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/470x312xsauber_c30_launch_vale_2011_jl-69-470x312.jpg.pagespeed.ic.vmlgA-2-Bq.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/470x312xsauber_c30_launch_vale_2011_jl-70-470x312.jpg.pagespeed.ic.pgax0hgZtj.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/470x312xsauber_c30_launch_vale_2011_jl-57-470x312.jpg.pagespeed.ic.sCmInoQYVw.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUaQy4JufxI/AAAAAAAAKAE/nOcwoM5LsPg/s640/2011-Sauber-c30-F1-.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

Finally. today is the day that the RB7 comes
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUe_nuiCi9I/AAAAAAAAKCg/bHLgj20rM-8/s1600/2011-Red-Bull-RB7-in-Photos.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUe7_Bq3EEI/AAAAAAAAKCY/JwC7t_uGIN8/s1600/Red-Bull-RB7-in-Photos.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUfC27c7YeI/AAAAAAAAKCk/hLCek-T9g1g/s1600/Red-Bull-RB7-in-Photos-12.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUfEQTvBRqI/AAAAAAAAKCs/zt-Y8ihqCOw/s1600/2011-Red-Bull-RB7-in-Photo1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUfETThS7cI/AAAAAAAAKCw/hMobNVuwJE0/s1600/Red-Bull-RB7-in-Photos-1.jpg

[mimalmo]

That looks fantastic.

[SLK]

Needs more stretch and poke. :biggrin:

[famouSSTAR]

yeah i think the car looks pretty good this year. I watch half of 2009, all of 2010. So now i finally have i team i look forward to following all year. should be a great year for RBR. Seb has a good chance of repeating

[JPB]

My favorite car is the Williams FW33. Bad. Ass.

http://photos.gpupdate.net/newsnew/168952.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

looks like a f'n stealth bomber

[famouSSTAR]

looking at the rear, it seems to just end. i think it might be missing some rear aero though.
http://www.f1technical.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=58670&g2_serialNumber=3
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/barr_will_vale_2011-21.jpg

[JPB]

http://www.motorward.com/wp-content/images/2011/02/Williams-FW33.jpg

I just heard about that Renault/Lotus today... forward-facing exhaust, unreal. This season should be really cool, HD and all. I may come dangerously close to getting cable.

[famouSSTAR]

i heard the the Renault C31 is running a very complex exhaust system also

[famouSSTAR]

no visible exhaust outlet
http://www.formula1.com/wi/1280x720/manual/dmk1131ja119.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/rena_vale_2011.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

front exit exhaust explained (http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/renault-r31-front-exit-exhausts-fee-explained/)
http://scarbsf1.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/r31_fee.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

This is why i love F1. the engineers think way of of the box. forward exhaust? crazy

[mimalmo]

Oh wow, that is some interesting aero.

[Leviathan]

Anyone go to Montreal last year for F1? I went with some friends in a TDi. It was a great time! We'll be going this year as well. But instead of the TDi it'll be an Evo VIII, 335i, possibly an FD, and a Esprit SE. Non of which are stock. If you are planning on heading out there this year it would be nice to caravan out there... especially with someone with a reliable car... or truck. That Lotus will be questionable... as would my RX-7. ;)

[mimalmo]

Sheesh, I'll admit that I haven't even looked at the schedule for 2011.


2011 Formula One Schedule:
3/13 Bahrain
3/27 Australia
4/10 Malaysia
4/17 China
5/8 Turkey
5/22 Spain
5/29 Monaco
6/12 Canada
6/26 Europe
7/10 Great Britain
7/24 Germany
7/31 Hungary
8/28 Belgium
9/11 Italy
9/25 Singapore
10/9 Japan
10/16 Korea
10/30 India*
11/13 Abu Dhabi
11/27 Brazil

* Subject to the homologation of the circuit

[Leviathan]

A couple pics from the phone from last year.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Techno_Craft/0613001325.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Techno_Craft/0613001421.jpg

The night life was just as good as the racing!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Techno_Craft/0611002208.jpg

[mrkrinkle]

That forward facing exhaust makes no sense to me. Isn't the only advantage no turbulent air under the rear wing? There HAS to be some sort of super fancy aero advantage such as a way around the "double diffuser" ban or something.

[famouSSTAR]

Sheesh, I'll admit that I haven't even looked at the schedule for 2011.


2011 Formula One Schedule:
3/13 Bahrain
3/27 Australia
4/10 Malaysia
4/17 China
5/8 Turkey
5/22 Spain
5/29 Monaco
6/12 Canada
6/26 Europe
7/10 Great Britain
7/24 Germany
7/31 Hungary
8/28 Belgium
9/11 Italy
9/25 Singapore
10/9 Japan
10/16 Korea
10/30 India*
11/13 Abu Dhabi
11/27 Brazil

* Subject to the homologation of the circuit

its going to be a busy season this year.

[famouSSTAR]

:D the F150s secret weapon...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yjpc_eruYBo/TUqCrcNs-1I/AAAAAAAAKJA/afwZBcc2yBI/s1600/8600.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

released about an hour ago. the side pods look crazy
http://en.espnf1.com/PICTURES/CMS/8600/8625.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mcl26_5.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mcl26_9.jpg

[famouSSTAR]

I thought they were going to go with different colors, like the old red and white.

[mimalmo]

sidepods are definitely interesting. front aero is completely different than everyone else

[famouSSTAR]

sidepods are definitely interesting. front aero is completely different than everyone else
the front wing is so complex, and it seems that the whole front end is very low to the ground

[mimalmo]

you're right, front does seem low. some curbage will take care of that.

[famouSSTAR]

What cars you guys like this year. any predictions yet

[famouSSTAR]

"Robert Kubica looks set to miss part - if not all - of the 2011 Formula One season after suffering multiple fractures to his right arm, leg and hand in a high-speed accident on Sunday, while competing in the Ronde di Andora Rally in Italy". He was airlifted to a near by hospital.
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/02/07/2170476/kubica16-420x0.jpg
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/02/07/2170477/kubica4-420x0.jpg
‘Surgeons are trying to restore the functionality of his right hand,’’ Kubica’s manager Daniel Morelli told reporters outside the hospital. They have restarted the circulation of blood and repaired the bone structure. Now they have to think about the muscle functionality but Robert has a very strong character, he’ll be OK.’’
my thought and prayers to him on a fast recovery.
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/02/06/2170211/kubica-420x0.jpg

[derp]

damn.

best wishes.

[mimalmo]

Holy shit. Losing functionality of his hand would end his F1 career. Bummer. Such a talented guy....

[famouSSTAR]

sound like his hand may have almost been served.

[mrkrinkle]

Damn that is some big news. I'm glad he is ok. Who is next in line for his seat? I highly doubt that he would be healthy enough to competitively drive this year or ever..

[Digital K]

can someone run down the basics of F1 for me? I'm completely uninformed. Why is it cool? important rules? etc

[mimalmo]

1. Many of the world's best road racing circuits like Spa, Nurburgring, Monza, Silverstone,
2. Cutting edge technology and design
3. Top drivers from all over the world
4. Minimum car weight is around 1,400 pounds
5. 2.4 litre NA V8's that rev to 18,000 RPM's and deliver over 740 HP

[famouSSTAR]

Damn that is some big news. I'm glad he is ok. Who is next in line for his seat? I highly doubt that he would be healthy enough to competitively drive this year or ever..

Bruno Senna and Romain Grosjean are next in line.

[Digital K]

1. Many of the world's best road racing circuits like Spa, Nurburgring, Monza, Silverstone,
2. Cutting edge technology and design
3. Top drivers from all over the world
4. Minimum car weight is around 1,400 pounds
5. 2.4 litre NA V8's that rev to 18,000 RPM's and deliver over 740 HP

how much engineering are they actually allowed to do? Is it similar to nascar in terms of "forumula" ?

[palmer]

can someone run down the basics of F1 for me? I'm completely uninformed. Why is it cool? important rules? etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One


And this should sum things up well. Those are GT class cars getting demolished.

Ex5dhhpSHCw

[mimalmo]

how much engineering are they actually allowed to do? Is it similar to nascar in terms of "forumula" ?

They do have limits - you have to in order to have an organized series. But, each team has the ability to run the chassis, engine and aero kit of their own design. Seeing things like that reverse exhaust system blows my mind. But somehow, they found an advantage to using it. But definitely not anywhere near as restrictive as NASCAR.

I don't really enjoy watching qualifying. I usually DVR the actual race (since they're often on so early & I loathe commercials) and watch it later that same day. I passively watch the pre-race show unless there's worthwhile topics being discussed. The standing starts are a blast. Check it out sometime. I posted the schedule earlier in this thread.


EDIT: And that video overlay Palmer posted is sweet. Allows you to see the speed difference between GT Sports Cars (Porsche, Lambo, Aston, Vette, etc) and F1 cars at Spa's Eau Rouge corner; one of the trickiest corners in the world. The GT cars will do it at 100mph to 110mph, F1 cars take it at over 180 mph.

[mimalmo]

Ford Sues Ferrari (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/10/ford-ferrari-idUSN0922689820110210)

[SLK]

EDIT: And that video overlay Palmer posted is sweet. Allows you to see the speed difference between GT Sports Cars (Porsche, Lambo, Aston, Vette, etc) and F1 cars at Spa's Eau Rouge corner; one of the trickiest corners in the world. The GT cars will do it at 100mph to 110mph, F1 cars take it at over 180 mph.

Yeah that video is insane. It's one of those things you don't notice until you see that kind of comparison. I have been to 2 GT races and those cars seemed to be crazy fast in real life. I can't even comprehend the speed of F1 in real life.

I am very excited for the season this year. :D

[famouSSTAR]

that video is awesome palmer. thanks

[mimalmo]

If you haven't bothered to read about Robert Kubica's accident, here's why everyone is worried about his racing future.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvNMehM0VyI

[famouSSTAR]

wow...

[SLK]

Reminds of those photos of that Audi R8 that took on a guard rail. I hope he is ok. It will suck if his career is done for.

[BlackVR]

I can't believe Kubica fared as well as he did actually, he's lucky the rail didn't go through his torso.

Also, in terms of the forward exhaust, I'm pretty sure it's just to get more high speed air going under the undertray since the cars this year are relying more on ground effects than wings. It has the double effect of leaving the airflow around the wing alone and routing more under the car.

I saw the F1 race at Indy two years, including the year all the cars decided not to race, and it was absolutely incredible. The speed and the sound is honestly indescribable. The cars seem to defy physics around the corners. It's most apparent when they're following the safety car. You don't realize it on TV, but the safety car is an AMG Mercedes being driven at 100% by a professional racing driver, and the F1 cars following look like they're barely moving compared to when they're underway. It really is something you have to see to even "get."

[SLK]

the safety car is an AMG Mercedes being driven at 100% by a professional racing driver, and the F1 cars following look like they're barely moving compared to when they're underway. It really is something you have to see to even "get."

This is why I would kill to go to a F1 race.

[famouSSTAR]

God i want to go. Cant wait for Austin to open

[peterg]

The best european manufacturers such as Mercedes, BMW, and Ferrari have been or are still involved in the sport. YouTube F1 engine testing!

[Leviathan]

Just got my tickets for Montreal. Section 15!

http://www.circuitgillesvilleneuve.ca/DATA/TEXTE/plan_circuit_billets_en.pdf

[famouSSTAR]

Redbull will have some extra money to spend on the RB7 this season


Red Bull Racing may be using the same engines as Renault this season, however, they will be rebadged as Infinitis.

Red Bull claimed the double last season, powered by Renault and opted to extend their deal with the French carmaker.

However, this year the engines will no longer be called 'Renault'. Instead, they will be renamed 'Infinitis'.

According to the BBC, the deal is expected to boost Red Bull's coffers "by at least £7m", which equates to "about 4-5% of their total budget" as they will be receiving the engines for free.

The deal is intended to boost Infiniti - the premium brand of Nissan, which is part-owned by Renault - name on the global stage.

[mimalmo]

3-27 can't come fast enough.

[mimalmo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk7zmKM37M0

[Champ]

can someone run down the basics of F1 for me? I'm completely uninformed. Why is it cool? important rules? etc
They are the exact fastest vehicle around a track no matter what, and the stats about the cars is very humbling.

Although I do prefer to watch Moto GP / World Super Bike as I feel it has a little more action.


I wonder how many more years it will be until they make the cars so fast the drivers can't physically drive them?

[Kriesel]

I wonder how many more years it will be until they make the cars so fast the drivers can't physically drive them?

It's coming hahaha
http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/en_INT/Gran-Turismo-5/001242902964822

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/idc-models-builds-real-life-model-of-red-bull-x1-prototype-ar100831.html

[famouSSTAR]

I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with testing at all. seems like Mclaren is trying to play catch up. really off the pace with the other cars. Torro Rosso is looking pretty good, the car is not the best with time but its always around the top.

[famouSSTAR]

4 days till the start of the 11' season. I'm pumped. any predictions. im thinking its going to be between red bull and ferrari. Button has won Australia the last two season. So im sure he will be in the mix. Go Vettel!

[mimalmo]

Get your DVR's fired up guys (unless you're able to stay awake for it all).

[iStunt]

4 days till the start of the 11' season. I'm pumped. any predictions. im thinking its going to be between red bull and ferrari. Button has won Australia the last two season. So im sure he will be in the mix. Go Vettel!

My father has his money on the braun mercedes team. Schuimy might win some races this year.

[famouSSTAR]

Wow. great to see Vettel at the top of the time sheets.

[mimalmo]

Red Bull dominating once again.

[Stumanbmx]

Time to fire up uTorrent.

[bailey611]

Wow. great to see Vettel at the top of the time sheets.

:thumbup:

[iStunt]

I'm up and watching it live!

[bailey611]

go vettel !

[mimalmo]

Amazing that Red Bull dominated qualifying without even using KERS. Too bad MW couldn't turn his great starting position into a podium finish in his home GP.

[jdswell]

No one becomes a champion in racing without being aggressive, that's part of the profile. Look at any of them: Senna taking out Prost, Schuey's patented starting-line to the first corner sideways blocking, pushing Rubens to the wall last year, etc.

On another subject, how about the moveable rear wing option in the Australian race? How much is that really going to help passing this year?

[famouSSTAR]

Congrats to Vettel! He looked awesome all weekend. They didn't even use KERS. I wonder what the deal was. Did anyone see Webber pull in the pits right away?

[mimalmo]

I saw that but never caught the explanation. There must have been something wrong to not take a celebratory lap at your home GP.

[famouSSTAR]

there is not alot of talk about it on Autosport. but id find some comments. Some people are saying that there was some talk that there was something wrong with the car. much like last year when vettel retired from a "spark plug problem".

[famouSSTAR]

And i never really saw what happened with rosberg. i know the shumi went out when rubens took him out.

[Topher]

DRS appeared to give no real benefit.

[famouSSTAR]

yeah, there were alot of time that it looked like it might work. but didnt

[Topher]

lolwut?

[famouSSTAR]

There is alot of talk this year about the RBR front wing. here we go again. time after time the front wings on the RB6-RB7 were tested. it passes every test. Newey has some how out smarted everyone. someone should have copied it by now.

Maybe he know how they test the wing and the process goes in to it. and has but the flex wing around that. what gets me is no down the grid can figured out how he did it. its fucking great.

[famouSSTAR]

now there was a picture of Webber looking at the front of SV's RB7. which is kind of weird, you think he would know what the front end of their cars looks like. which makes me believe that they might be running slightly different wings. just like last year.

http://users.telenet.be/sonic_x5/forum/webber.png

[iSpeed]

Did you all see this today!?!

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg28/hodjie/Cars/IMAG0599.jpg

Cell video capture.


http://vimeo.com/22210568

[mrkrinkle]

Yeah I watched the race live. I took a picture of that myself. Insane. He broke the steering column loose.

[famouSSTAR]

I watched quali and the race this morning. He launched it. hopefully he is ok.

[bailey611]

so does redbull have kers or not? :)

[iStunt]

so does redbull have kers or not? :)

I think they do but it has problems which might cause issues.

[famouSSTAR]

They are having reliability problems with the unit. some people are thinking that they are using a light weight unit just for the starting line.

[Aladinsane07]

The Chinese GP was easily the best race I've ever seen. So many great performances, passes, etc. It was a nail biter 'til the end.

[iStunt]

The Chinese GP was easily the best race I've ever seen. So many great performances, passes, etc. It was a nail biter 'til the end.

TRUFFE'

If the rest of the season goes similar it will be one of the greatest seasons I've seen.

[mattdesmond]

Indeed, what a race! The WRC race last week in Jordan was also the closest race in a long time, if ever. Good shit.

[mimalmo]

Wow, all kinds of action at Monaco today. Hamilton drove like crap.

[derp]

good, i hate his face

[Aladinsane07]

Monaco had the makings of a fantastic finish until that whole shit show at the end. And yeah, horrible showing from Hamilton.

[iStunt]

Guy should check out the show Seat Swap on Speedtv right now. Hami and Stewart are swaping cars.

[mimalmo]

Sunday on FOX was the race to see. Best race I've seen in years.

[TJ914]

Sunday on FOX was the race to see. Best race I've seen in years.

Definitely. Was good hungover sunday entertainment, with a nice nap break in the middle.

Wish it would have been a little more of an actual pass by Button at the end there, but that's just me being greedy.

Not quite sure what I think of the rules regarding the use of the moveable wing, and the gap requirement, different rules regarding its use might have given Schumacher a fighting chance at the podium.

[Dakota_Ice]

I found an Irish Pub down the street from the Shanghai hotel I'm staying at and they had F1 on a large screen in their outdoor seating area. Great venue and the weather was perfect, too bad the race was boring! Vetter wins by 12 seconds.....not even close.

[JPB]

That track is truly awful.

[mimalmo]

That track is truly awful.


Lack of runoff?

[JPB]

I think my problem with it is that it just is not purpose-built. I'm not saying that would stop the circuit from giving a good race; Monaco goes in swings, I suppose.

I'm excited about Austin, Texas. Anyone who cares, though needs to chime in and send an email to the Austin City Council to show support for the F1 race! It's under threat right now.
go here: http://austinf1facts.com/ and write a quick note if you can!

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/170707/1/circuit_calls_for_usgp_fan_support.html

[sirpuddingfoot]

Here's another Austin GP support opportunity:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/supportusgpracing/

I actually fell asleep for a few laps watching the Euro GP on Sunday. Bernie seemed to suggest during the prerace on BBC that the track was played out. He's definitely right.

[iStunt]

I think my problem with it is that it just is not purpose-built. I'm not saying that would stop the circuit from giving a good race; Monaco goes in swings, I suppose.

I'm excited about Austin, Texas. Anyone who cares, though needs to chime in and send an email to the Austin City Council to show support for the F1 race! It's under threat right now.
go here: http://austinf1facts.com/ and write a quick note if you can!

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/170707/1/circuit_calls_for_usgp_fan_support.html

It's a street course and it's supposed to be that way. To test the cars and drivers on a non purpose built course. Just like Monaco.

[JPB]

That doesn't make anyone's heart beat faster. In 3-4 years of Valencia, has there been one good race? It must be the least exciting circuit in the calendar.
Monaco is sometimes a procession, but there's a great race there at least every 3 years.

In other words, bring back the A1 Ring! Or Hockenheim with the run through the forest, where Jim Clark raced his last!
More circuits like Turkey, and less like Singapore. F1 has enough pressure to pussify everything from rules to design to engine limits; the drivers don't enjoy driving at Valencia, so why should we?

Also, I received a reply from a Austin City Councilman today!
I'll have to get it from my work email, but I'll post it up if anyone would like to read it. It talks about why he is voting FOR the race.

[mimalmo]

From Jalopnik this morning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRp-Ef6-QYk

[famouSSTAR]

Vettel has a chance to seal the WDC this weekend. Rain is forcasted for the weekend, it has never rain during the race. you guys think it can be done. or is Alonso going to spoil it.

[famouSSTAR]

I'm really interested to see how the smaller teams finish out the year, especially Renault Lotus. this weekend they are installing the aerodynamics upgrade. i really think they are moving in the right direction. all the new teams are starting to plant their roots in F1. when it comes down to Virgin jumping on board with Mclaren for technical development. Or HRT developing their drivers and getting new sponsors.

[Aladinsane07]

Vettel has a chance to seal the WDC this weekend. Rain is forcasted for the weekend, it has never rain during the race. you guys think it can be done. or is Alonso going to spoil it.

I think Vettel passing on the grass and never looking back answers that question. :kris:

[mimalmo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibMYIBRc6I

[Aladinsane07]

I'm so pumped for F1 to come here. November 18th is my lady's birthday and she's already said if I can get tickets, it will be her birthday present.