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omni
02-03-2006, 07:24 AM
To all concerned,

I want to formally apologize, it seems that I have been bashing eurowerks and its founders/members here and there over the past couple months on various forums. I have realized that really it was just un-needed, childish and overall inappropriate. I guess with all the drama lately (volksport, vwvortex, mnsc, eurowerks, etc) I have realized a lot of things, like how all the drama has truly ruined \'the scene\' for me personally. There is no more sense of \"community\" within any of the clubs anymore; everyone is too busy hating one another, other clubs or even other local shops. I have realized that all the people I \"hate\", so to speak (i.e.: Darren, Kris and others), that really I thought to myself \"Why am I still holding a grudge? Why am I still harboring all this hate?” I thought to myself today; \"Why am I making negative comments about eurowerks and about certain people?\" when I said I was bashing earlier I want to make it clearer that I was expressing my own personal grudge and my angst... I mean, all of the shit that I did and that everyone else did is in the past and now it just seems like everyone is still holding on to those personal grudges both as individuals and as clubs, for what?. Where is any of it getting any of us? All of those grudges are getting all of us no where... Quite honestly, I don\'t want to hold any more grudges against any person or any club as it’s just too draining to keep perpetuating the hate. I just want to be a car enthusiast you enjoys talking or hanging out with other enthusiasts, nothing more. I would like to apologize to Kris, Darren, eurowerks and anyone else that I have gotten on the wrong side of. I will say there are reasons for my actions in the past, some of those actions I do regret, but I cannot change what I did and furthermore they don\'t need to be discussed right now as that\'s not why I am writing this. I would like to think someone isn\'t judged by their mistakes but by what they do to correct those mistakes. We all fuck up at one time or another, but it takes a lot to stand up and say \"Yes, I was wrong. I fucked up and for that I sincerely apologize\". I do hope that my apology is taken genuinely as I truly want to apologize and ask for all those people with hate, grief and grudges against me personally, to let it ago, to forgive and to start with a clean slate. Please accept my apology. If there are people who do not wish to accept my apology I would really like those people to come to me personally so they can express how they feel I have wronged them and tell me what I can do to correct the situation and make amends. I have let go of all my grudges, my hate, my grief, my angst and I have forgiven everyone and I assure you I will do the best from here on out to never again bash eurowerks, Kris, Darren or anyone else who I feel has wronged me in the past, its now all in the past and that is where I wish to leave it. I have let go of the past and you all have a clean slate with me, all I ask if for the same from you. Thank you and have a good day.

Signed,
Josh \"Omni\"

Josh<at>leveleight.org

OptimusGlen
02-03-2006, 08:05 AM
not to sound cheesy by posting a movie quote but... \"It\'s what you do that defines who you are.\"

this is a good start, but I know you ragged on people pretty badly, and a lot of people aren\'t as forgiving as I am.

cheers, keep the shiny side up.

Post edited by: OptimusGlen, at: 2006/02/03 06:05

vwjw
02-03-2006, 08:43 AM
That is a good start. I am not holding any grudges, however I feel that for some reason or another this apology is not genuine. I could be wrong, but that is how I feel. I could understand if you were talking about the last big blowups and what not, but 2 days ago you bashed this club on another site pretty hard.

\"Any club that is founded by a group of people who got kicked out of other club\'s is destined to be retarded

\"Eurowerk, if you\'re banned somewhere else we\'ll take you in... until you disagree with us, and then we\'ll be hypocrites and kick you out of our club.\"

rumor mill says Kris is still trying to get back into volksport, hah!

I am banned from Eurowerks, rofl.\"

2 days is not that long ago. I just hope that you really mean this. I am tired of people fighting everywhere.

voodoo oldz
02-03-2006, 09:47 AM
Yeah welcome to my world, a world you helped create. I went from car freak to not even wanting to change my own oil because of the crap you unleashed over on VS upon me, for no good reason at all.

I don\'t hold grudges, but you sure as hell ain\'t gonna be on my xmas list.

Mimi03GTI
02-03-2006, 12:27 PM
That\'s a great start Josh and hopefully truly meant. I never hold grudges from what I see online. I judge people by the way they react around me in person. I\'ve never had any beef with you but just didn\'t like the way you took the internet too seriously some times. If peeps don\'t respect me than I will not respect them. People let the internet ruin friendships, which is really sad indeed. If I hang with folks offline and really get to know them, I\'m not going to judge what they do online, i\'ll just tell them by commenting myself. I spent a week with Darren during the Waterfest cruise to NJ and had a blast. He can call me names or whatever he wants to say online and it will not ruin my friendship with him. If someone\'s really pissed off with me online, I\'d like to meet them in person and get it resolved. Same goes with everyone else on here. Spend some personal time with Kris and Glen (only if they let you) and see what great people they really are. I know I enjoy their company. We can all be asses when ever we want online, but friendships shouldn\'t be dictated by it. There\'s more to real life than the internet. ;) I just feel really bad for Chad for just running away from his problems all the time. I wish he would come around and see how stupid this internet nonsense with friends really is and face reality. Things will always stay bitter if you just run away. And I believe you\'ll live a short life because of it. Who needs extra stress in our lives. B)

Post edited by: mimi03gti, at: 2006/02/08 10:20

Digital K
02-03-2006, 08:22 PM
well put neal....

StickiestOfTheIckiest
02-03-2006, 08:43 PM
Really well put Neal!

Josh, as much as I had a poblem with you over the internet, I have gotten to know you face to face and you seemed like such a great person, its just all the internet bs that makes you look like a total ass! For your sake (not tring to threaten you or anything), I hope you ARE being honest about apologizing and starting over with a clean slate.....since I\'ve gotton to know you personally (not over the internet), I\'ll let go of my grudges with you, which isn\'t common for me since I do tend to get an anger problem and that just snowballs into other things that I won\'t get into, lol...I was raised to forgive and forget and I always try to nice to people.....

So consider me accepting the apology...

Post edited by: StickiestOfTheIckiest, at: 2006/02/03 18:44

dropkikgti
02-03-2006, 10:11 PM
josh, I have seen you say some pretty nasty things. BUT, I have seen kris, glen, darren, myself, and MANY others say some nasty things too. The online world has really taken a toll on our community and everybody (well expcept the rare case of Neal) is to blame for it. Some people are more diplomatic than others and some have strong feelings towards certain issues. I have made it a personal goal of mine to keep it as real as possible and realize people are people. I hope everybody here can make it a personal goal to focus on the real world. People are NOT good or bad because of the club they affiliate with. Hopefully everybody can truely learn from all this E-bullshit and work on keeping themselves happy and closeknit. Life is to short for these types of situations.

nixbora
02-07-2006, 08:04 PM
I love you all! ***












*** except for Darren - he\'s a Saab:P

shaneco13
02-07-2006, 10:57 PM
even though none of the bashing and what not was aimed at me (unless i was totally unaware of it), i will accept the apology on the behalf of the others who got offended. i agree with you saying it takes balls to admit when ones wrong.

i like my personaly philosophy of just relaxing and going with the flow, cause it seems to work out well

i guess lets try to see this as a good start to making some more positive atmosphere around the VW community/ clubs...and other clubs.


and for the records i am consuming a beer after i write this. yeeyuuuh

voodoo oldz
02-08-2006, 11:26 AM
nixbora wrote:

I love you all! ***












*** except for Darren - he\'s a Saab:P

:evil: